How much does this Power Pages actually cost?

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Once again Microsoft chose to make their licensing model as confusing as possible.

Here is their overview: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/power-platform/admin/powerapps-flow-licensing-faq#portals

I'm looking at using Power Pages to build a website for a client.

In Microsoft's pricing overview they list:

External user (authenticated)	Per login	Power Apps Portals login capacity add-on	100 logins	$200	All	A login provides the authenticated user with access to a single portal for up to 24 hours
		Power Apps Portals login capacity add-on Tier 2	1000 logins	$1000	All
		Power Apps Portals login capacity add-on Tier 3	5000 logins	$3500	CSP only
External user (anonymous)	Per page view	Power Apps Portals page view capacity add-on	100,000 page views	$100	All
Internal user	Via license	Dynamics 365 (various)	n/a	n/a	n/a	Custom portal use rights are aligned with custom app use rights
		Power Apps per app plan
		Power Apps per user plan

See the red one? What does that even mean? Will they charge my customer if they hit 100,000 views after a set amount of time? Is this concurrent views. Is the cost auto opt in? As in they will charge you whether you want it or not.

I had assumed I would be able to create a website using the PowerApps Portals feature. Seeing these additional line items is very confusing.

Someone mind clarifying?

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virksami 59 on at

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They will charge tenant/sub owner for external users 100usd for every 100k pageviews.

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ragavanrajan 7,044 Most Valuable Professional on at

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Hi Pls, don't worry. The simple way is as follows.

The data you are exposing as anonymous as well as the web page available as public are considered anonymous.

What is the minimum number of logins and page view that I need to assign to a specific portal?

The minimum login quantity to be assigned to a portal is 100 logins/month. Once you have assigned 100 logins, you can assign them in units of 1.

For example, if you have 3 portals and bought 4 login packs (400 logins), you can assign them in the following ways:

Portal 1: 120 (min 100)

Portal 2: 151 (min 100)

Portal 3: 129 (min 100)
Page views: Minimum 50,000 per portal. After that you can assign 1 at a minimum.

Hope it helps.

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TxTechnician 98 on at

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Ya, I'm still not getting it.

Here's how much it would cost my customer to build a standard JS, HTML, CSS site:
My price to build the program and $10 a month for hosting service. If someone visits that website. Cool. If it get 1,000,000 still cool. And there is no extra fee

How much would it cost to host a website using Power Pages?
There's two users. And it is going to be a public website for a non-profit organization. So it will be viewed, often. Maybe 1,000 times a month.

I'm just going to lay this out there. If the cost is tied to page views. E.G. Unique visitors who don't log in and only surf the web. There is zero chance I could ever sell this product. I can get a server I have total control over for $120/month and install any of the 1,000 plus free frameworks on it. Some of which have better drag and drop website builders than power pages. Like Odoo Community Edition.

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JohnSaxton Microsoft Employee on at

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Power Portals require either page view capacity for public facing webpages or login capacity if your content is gated by a login.

If you require a login and have no public facing pages other than your home page with your login link, all you need is login capacity. No page view capacity required. The minimum number of logins you can buy is 100. So it would be $200 per month for 100 logins. A login provides an external authenticated user access to a single Power Apps portal for up to 24 hours. Multiple logins during the 24-hour period count as one billable login.

If you have some public facing content, other than the home page with the login link, you will need to consider page view capacity in your cost model as well. The minimum page view capacity is 100,000 page views per month for $100.

See this link for pricing: https://powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/

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carebratech 19 on at

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@TxTechnician I agree with you, and if we want to connect to dataverse there is an external API for that, priced per page views is a big NO, it would be no brainer stick with a web host with a CMS.

For Microsoft at least have the option of pay-as-you-go for the page views, with a reasonable price, or that already exist? reference link will be helpful.

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Peragin 160 on at

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They do have a pay per view but that is like double the price so in general, I think the capacity model is a better option. @TxTechnician yes, it is difficult to justify this platform for anonymous browsing over just accessing the data via the web api from the dataverse/dynamics backend. The authenticated sku does have some value is that it provides and alternative UI to power apps for external users and internal users in certain circumstances where access to your dataverse and other datasources is required.

Add to this, by separating Power Pages (formerly PowerApps Portals) away from Power Apps, it makes the feasibility equation even harder to balance.

The licensing model was a blocker for PowerApps Portal and it looks like licensing could hinder the adoption of Power Pages as well judging by the early sentiment.

Edit: My statement: "Add to this, by separating Power Pages (formerly PowerApps Portals) away from Power Apps, it makes the feasibility equation even harder to balance.", is incorrect. It remains that if you purchase a license to Power Apps, then Power Pages is included. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/power-platform/admin/powerapps-flow-licensing-faq#what-are-the-power-pages-use-rights-included-with-power-apps-and-dynamics-365-enterprise-licenses

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TxTechnician 98 on at

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The problem with this: "For Microsoft at least have the option of pay-as-you-go for the page views, with a reasonable price, or that already exist? reference link will be helpful."

Is that if you're paying per page view. It can easily become a nightmare. All it takes is one disgruntled IT person who knows how to use python to rack up x number of anonymous views. And now the company has a huge bill and is pissed at Microsoft.

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TxTechnician 98 on at

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I've already decided not to sell or recommend this product.

It's simply too expensive and not user friendly enough to make me switch from custom website design.

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adipod 2 on at

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I still don't get it 100 percent.

What does the expression 'site' in 'for 100 users/site/month' mean? They don't mean each and every single site of a project I have to pay $200.

For Webprojekt with
- Starting page
- 10 subpages
-> 11 x $200?

Or is 'site' meant as a website (with multiple sites), Which would mean for my example above 1 x $200?!

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JohnSaxton Microsoft Employee on at

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Adipod,
100 users / site / month means - 100 unique users for the entire website for the month. The next month the unique user count starts all over again. Doesn't matter how many pages or pageviews your site has. It doesn't matter how many times the same user logs in. The capacity license is only looking at unique users per month.

A site is defined as the base URL so https://<site1>.mysite.com is a website. https://<site2>.mysite.com is a second website and so on. Each would require its own capacity licenses. Basically each new Power Pages portal app that you create becomes its own website.
https://powerpages.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/

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