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Hello Community,

 

This is my first post here. I'm trying to establish if Power Pages will be suitable for what I would like to achieve. I'm aware that I could read all about this by rummaging through the internet. However, I feel I will get some more accurate help here, from those amongst you, who perhaps have a robust insight of the software’s capabilities, and who can find the time to offer their thoughts, advice or simply point me in the right direction. I'd like to start with a thank you if I may please. In advance of any replies.

 

A Bit of Background About Me

 

I'm a particularly old person. I'm just over 60 years of age. I did learn basic programming at school, some 46 years ago. That was in the days when my programs were stored on "ticker tape". I programmed the computer to play Mastermind which is a game of two players where one player hides four coloured pegs, and their opponent has to work out the colours and sequence. I managed a frail 38 out of 40 or 95% :-). In the late 80's I taught myself to use Lotus 1-2-3 and was the first person to introduce spreadsheets into the company I worked for.

 

I earn my living in construction. I am a Quantity Surveyor (QS). The construction industry in the UK has not embraced technology very well. The spreadsheets that I used in the late 80's to support my role have changed little, if any, since then. They have more columns and an overwhelming amount of additional information on them, but they remain very much the same.

 

Excel spreadsheets are on every desktop in the industry.

 

What I Want to Achieve

 

The industry generates numbers at a very early stage of a site. These numbers are often used in separate systems as the works progress. The overhead this creates is huge. Some large software companies offer solutions. However, these are "bolt-ons" added to the companies accounting system and are simply not fit for purpose.

 

I aim to create a virtual administration clerk to support QS's. The system would need to allow users in an office or on site to connect to the app. For example a site-based employee, let's say a painter, finishes work in a new home. As he closes the door behind him he connects to the app and completes the plot number and the stage of build. These two numbers then pass through the website and eventually end up on a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet will raise the monthly application for payment at month end.

 

The "admin clerk" (AC) will then chase down the necessary signatures from the customer. The AC will be programmable by the user to chase at intervals of choice. The AC will also text or email the user if signatures aren't secured.

 

I've outlined this in very simple terms. The target customers are subcontract companies with more than 10 site employees. I've some [limited knowledge] of spreadsheets and feel that the correct use of their database capabilities will manage the numbers well. The selling point in all of this is that Excel is on everyone's desktop.

 

I don't need a full-blown front end. It's more of a portal to direct traffic. But it would be a useful advertising platform.

 

Hopefully I've explained this well enough. The ultimate goal would be to handle a lot more data (a bit like Amazon tracks parcels) and seamlessly move numbers through the process without human intervention.

 

Thank you again

 

AsleepInYorks(shire)

 

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  • Lucas001 Profile Picture
    2,562 Super User 2026 Season 1 on at

    Hi @AsleepInYorks,

     

    great to see that people of old ages are using that forum and happy to give my thoughts here.

    In general, I would say not PowerPages but the entire PowerPlatform seems to be a good choice for you as it is one of the solutions to replace spreadsheets with automation.

     

    Other than that I would combine a few things and point some things out.

    1. PowerPages is a website and needs a permanent connection to the internet, could be that this is not given in all your projects. As you will have external clients it is probably the best way to go. PowerPages offer an easy way to build a webpage. If you don't care much about the frontend, need no fancy animation or know a bit of CSS HTML you can make your page looking good enough.
    2. As you will face multiple clients with more than 1x person assigned, you will need some administration with dynamics in the backend. Purpose is that company y can only see their tasks and company x theirs. So the people must automatically be assigned to a specific security group. Can be done automatically but something what you need to consider.
    3. I believe your clients would be "private" and the page must not be available to the public - invitation codes which can be generated for the login could be your choice here.
    4. When you want to use PowerPages you will have dataverse , the backend of the power platform in your license, there is no other choice. Dataverse can store a lot of things and a lot of tables, for your numbers which will change during their lifecycle dataverse is big enough and can handle a lot of traffic. I got pages with multiple thousand active users, adding and editing data.
    5. For your idea of excel you would use PowerAutomate which comes in the backend and creates the needed Automation. Fill spreadsheets, send mails, collect signitures etc. You will have PowerAutomate in your license as well. 
    6. you will have connectors to a lot of things. Creating and receiving numbers from excel or uploading numbers to SAP or other ERPs is no problem.
    7. If you want to later on create visuals you can use PowerBi - but I guess that would be the next step.

    Additionally I would say the costs are limited by the number of user if your page is not publicly availably but limited by the clients you know , you can estimate the costs per month etc.

     

    But for sure you will face costs. PowerPlatform offers much but costs at least something. And you will need some time to get used to it itself.

     

    I hope that helps with your decision.

    In case you need further information just answer this post or write me directly.

    If needed we can also see if there is an option to work on it directly.

  • AsleepInYorks Profile Picture
    7 on at

    Hi Lucas,

     

    Thank you for your response. It was extremely kind of you to find the time to write such an exhaustive, informative and helpful reply. I am genuinely not sure where I should begin. Please bear with me.

     

    More About Me

    As I’ve mentioned I am closer to life’s exit than its entrance. I’m kept young by my 16-year-old daughter. I’ve been fed and nurtured by my good lady and best friend of some 37 years now. Four months ago I was diagnosed with ADHD. Sixteen months ago I was diagnosed with RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome) and in particular [nocturnal] periodic limb movement (PLM). I was prescribed medication for both, and the results have been nothing less than transformative. I sleep at night, and my medication for the ADHD is restoring both my emotional regulation and my higher-level executive functions. ADHD is a neurodevelopmental problem which begins in childhood. It’s not a psychological problem. My entire journey as an adult is a reflection of the two undiagnosed conditions. It’s been tough. Not just for me but for those closest.

     

    Apart from defining much of the mundane, the diagnosis of ADHD may explain my diffuse and disparate thoughts. “Stuff” pops into my head randomly. Yes, it really does 😂. When this happens I’m able to sift the detritus from the solutions. I listen extremely well to others and can shape simple solutions. It’s this quality that I now need to harness and apply. When necessary I can be very determined. I am fortunate enough to know my limitations, but content to constructively challenge myself.  I can scale my thoughts, understand that the devil is in the detail and know where that detail fits inside the sausage machine.

     

    Your reply has engendered some excitement. I’m aware this should be well tempered. You have outlined a solution. No doubt about that.

     

    This alone is not the source of the excitement. It’s the gazillion other applications within construction that would also benefit from this.

     

    A Boring Bit

    Allow me to wander off tangentially please. I have a great excuse for this behaviour. It’s got a label and it’s ADHD 😊. I am laughing at myself. My role in construction is;

     

    1. Issue applications for payment to the customer/client - monthly
    2. Pay the supply chain, in particular the subcontractors - monthly
    3. Place the subcontract orders – at start of site and as work progresses.
    4. Discuss value engineering options
    5. Forecast cashflow
    6. Report on monthly profit/loss account
    7. Conflict resolution – contract enforcement, legal actions and the like
    8. Manage risk/reward/opportunity

    When I am given information which is used in my role I have to recognise its quality or otherwise. I have to be able to scale to deal with large subcontractors with hundreds of employees or a small subcontractor with five employees. I have to understand architects and engineers roles and how that impacts upon cost. I have more senses than Spiderman when I walk around a building site or am in the office or in a meeting.

     

    I am sure I speak for many when I say that I suffer from “information overload”. My late Father worked in the RAF. I recall reading an ironic joke he kept above his desk.

    It went something like this;

     

    All dedicated employees should be proactive. They should anticipate all eventualities within their plans and action them timely and accurately. There should be no doubt about the actions required to achieve the objective. There should be an organised and gainful focus to deliver. Resources should be adequate for the task at hand and time boundaries clearly cascaded to the operational teams. Plans should be highly focused upon the project outcome.

    However, when you are up to your arse in alligators it’s difficult to remind yourself that you are simply there to drain the swamp 😉.

     

    Information in the construction industry is the alligator in the modern world’s room. It’s manually duplicated across different computer systems. Retrieving information, like a black hole, consumes time. Numbers are fed into the sausage machine and aren’t managed. They waft around appearing on virtually every spreadsheet possible. When something goes wrong a meeting occurs. The subsequent result is another form will be created. More information is created. And after 43 years in the industry my desk resembles that swamp. I am maxed out doing admin work. My skills lost to the company I work for. My day job is admin. My night job is doing my day job.

     

    Total madness. A solution which reduces overhead costs, allows more time to apply high level skills and provides timely and accurate information is needed. Of that I have no doubt. It would be a difficult sale to larger companies, not least because they are committed to their current IT capex. My focus would be on smaller companies. And in a world of eggs and baskets that would be useful.

     

    What Now

    1. I will need some pennies to start the journey. The hard part.
    2. I need to understand more of the detail of the software. The time commitment part.
    3. It’s highly likely I will need to do some of the initial set up myself to limit cash exposure. More of my time.

    Business & Questions

    1. I’d like if I may Lucas to ask what your role is please? It would help me to contextualise. Thank you.
    2. Formalising detailed plans. Where would I find information about the sort of costs that I would incur before live issuance please?
    3. How difficult is it for someone like me to develop something like this from scratch? I envisage developing in small chunks and taking each to market sooner rather than later.
    4. What have I missed – where are the gotcha’s?

    One Click

    I’m not sure if Steve Jobs ever said it. He seemed focused on one click. Why use five clicks when you can do it in one. Intuitive UI’s are essential for this to work. Simplicity is often hard to achieve I know.

     

    Thank you

    AsleepInYork[shire]

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    Lucas001 Profile Picture
    2,562 Super User 2026 Season 1 on at

    Hi @AsleepInYorks,

     

    one of the longest responses I got to far and frankly quiet interesting as I don't have that much working experience myself.

    Regarding your questions. I am a Power Platform Engineer which means I work with all of the mentioned things earlier.

    You can find a lot about licensing here.

    I would say the difficulty is moderate as you will have to google a lot of things and probably will come back to the forum for some topics. The purpose of the power platform is to enable everyone to create simple app etc. with Low Code. It will be easier than learning a complete programming language.

    There are no gotcha's I can think of currently. My recommendation for you would be to use a developer account which is free and where you can start your journey. You have to set up that account and later on search for power apps free trial plan. So you can experience dataverse and power apps as well as power pages and see if it fits you.

     



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  • AsleepInYorks Profile Picture
    7 on at

    Thank you Lucas.

     

    What can I say when thank you doesn't really cover how grateful I am. I can't really say thank you twice can I.

     

    I'll add a thumbs up and I'll flag this as an acceptable solution.

     

    May I leave you with a thought please. But before I do I'd like to suggest you imagine I am a box of chocolates. When that box is offered you can take the chocolate of your choice. You can leave those you don't like for others.

     

    All I've had to do to be a very good QS is my job. No more, no less. To be a good QS I have to work with people. Spreadsheets aren't people. They are something used in the office in a similar way that tools are used on a building site.

     

    You have be very kind, extremely patient and highly informative. I am genuinely and sincerley grateful.

     

    May the road rise up to meet your feet.

     

    Take care

     

    AsleepInYorks[hire]

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