Kaizala groups via powerapps and flow

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The idea is that all the responses are logged in a DB per subject, and may trigger some action.

Do you have that “been there, done that” feeling?

So when the subject is determined, a dynamic group is created on Kaizala, the appropriate people are added to the group, and an initial message is sent out.

This part I got working, and I’m now brainstorming on how I can log all response messages. 😊

I found some documentation on the kaizala connector, (not sure if carlosag.net is a good reference, but google seems to think so)

and immediately find the list in the documentation, is longer than the list of functions in PowerApps itself.

MicrosoftKaizala.AddGroupToGroup
MicrosoftKaizala.AddSubscriberToGroup
MicrosoftKaizala.AddUserToGroup
MicrosoftKaizala.CreateSubgroup
MicrosoftKaizala.DeleteTrigger
MicrosoftKaizala.RemoveGroupFromGroup
MicrosoftKaizala.RemoveUserFromGroup
MicrosoftKaizala.CreateGroup
MicrosoftKaizala.PostReaction
MicrosoftKaizala.SendActionReminder
MicrosoftKaizala.SendActions
MicrosoftKaizala.Send
MicrosoftKaizala.SendMessage
MicrosoftKaizala.SendReply
MicrosoftKaizala.UploadMediaFileContent
MicrosoftKaizala.UploadMediaFromAttachment
MicrosoftKaizala.UploadMediaFromURL

😕 Not sure if that is a good sign.

Maybe I should look for the solution, outside of the app, in flow.

Afterall it should continue, even if the app is stopped or the phone is turned off !!

I know a flow can be triggered by a message in a group, but my groups are dynamic,….

So how would I get a flow to be triggered by a message to a group I will create in an hour?

I thought perhaps by adding the dynamic group to a static one. (MicrosoftKaizala.AddGroupToGroup)

But can we still “see” the dynamic “subgroup” in the message, so we know what subject to update?

Will the top group receive a message when a subgroup replies?

From the docs I’ve seen so far, it is top down, so it will not.

I have tried making one group member of another.

There is a flow, that will trigger on a message in the top group, but I notice it remains inactive on a message in the subgroup.

Or am I doing it wrong?

Maybe I misunderstood what kaizala is about, and is it oriented to simply broadcast.

Thanks for any response,

Michel

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Hi @MichelH ,

Do you want to get a flow to be triggered by a message to a group that will be created in an hour?

I think you could try this:

1) Delay/do until action (delay some time)

2)Get the group id

3)Be triggered by a message to the group that you created just now

Here are docs about do until,delay until action for your reference:

https://flow.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/build-advanced-flows/

https://medium.com/@rjesh/microsoft-flow-pause-till-date-ecec207522d8

What's more, about Flow I'm not so professional, I could only give you some advice.

I suggest you post your issue on Flow forum. There will be more professional engineers that can help you.

https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Forums/ct-p/FL_Comm_Forums

Best regards,
MichelH 401 on at

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Hi v-yutliu-msft Phoebe,

Thank you for your response.

Actually I'm seeking to capture reponses in kaizala groups, in an dynamic environment.

I didn't mean a delayed action in flow, but I want to know if it would be possible to have a flow triggered by dynamically created groups.
Right now I can trigger a flow for a group when I know its ID.
I'm looking to see if it is possible for example, to have a sub-group message, trigger a flow monitoring the top-group.
But it seems these structures are only for broadcasting top down?

I'm not sure if I should seek the solution in flow, altough I will post my questions in the flow forum as well.
Maybe the powerapps can interact with kaizala in other ways then I see now.
I don't feel I capture the concept fully.

Michel